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	<title>Comments on: Good capitalism, bad capitalism and turning science into economic benefit</title>
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	<description>Some personal views on nanotechnology, science and science policy from Richard Jones</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, I have a great deal of sympathy with what you say.  As you know, we are trying at Sheffield to introduce a number of measures to engage our students earlier with the creative side of science, but as you identify there are some barriers to this.  But I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m as confident as you that this will be enough to make our innovation system work better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I have a great deal of sympathy with what you say.  As you know, we are trying at Sheffield to introduce a number of measures to engage our students earlier with the creative side of science, but as you identify there are some barriers to this.  But I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m as confident as you that this will be enough to make our innovation system work better.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Keylock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Keylock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a very thought provoking and well-argued piece, but I think that the key question that is missing here is:
&quot;Given that UK universities educate the leaders of industry and of government, what is it about the education that they provide that fails to inculcate an appropriate culture of innovation in government and industry?&quot;

For the arts graduates in government I think that it is a lack of exposure to science-as-creative endeavour that is the problem. Science is the boring stuff, while English is where one talks about ideas. An American style first year where scientists take some arts courses and arts students some ideas-driven popular science courses would really help here.

For the science graduates in industry I think that it is a lack of exposure to science-as-creative endeavour that is the problem. They gain a scientific training similar to that in school but at a more advanced level, but their exposure to the original literature comes, in general, too late and is insufficient for them to develop a critical and creative approach to science without higher study. Hence, the notion of innovation- or ideas-driven science is problematic for them. 

With the demise of funding to support a strong tutorial system in all but Oxbridge, this has to be done by throwing students in at the deep end and getting them to engage with the original literature from year 1 at the same time as they are supported in learning the fundamentals. Individual academics and individual departments strive to do this, but in a culture where the comparative analysis of National Student Survey scores dictates that you must keep students happy and give them what they think they want, it takes a brave university, department and/or academic to do this.  (I was very pleased to find my new department assert very strongly that it wished to place greater emphasis on these aspects from this year).

More lobbying of government concerning educational policy and leadership in general from UUK, relevant position statements from the Russell Group as well as changes to QAA benchmark statements would help to ensure that we foster a view of science-as-ideas across industry and goverment. From such a culture, the conditions for the emergence of the right kind of capitalism are in place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very thought provoking and well-argued piece, but I think that the key question that is missing here is:<br />
&#8220;Given that UK universities educate the leaders of industry and of government, what is it about the education that they provide that fails to inculcate an appropriate culture of innovation in government and industry?&#8221;</p>
<p>For the arts graduates in government I think that it is a lack of exposure to science-as-creative endeavour that is the problem. Science is the boring stuff, while English is where one talks about ideas. An American style first year where scientists take some arts courses and arts students some ideas-driven popular science courses would really help here.</p>
<p>For the science graduates in industry I think that it is a lack of exposure to science-as-creative endeavour that is the problem. They gain a scientific training similar to that in school but at a more advanced level, but their exposure to the original literature comes, in general, too late and is insufficient for them to develop a critical and creative approach to science without higher study. Hence, the notion of innovation- or ideas-driven science is problematic for them. </p>
<p>With the demise of funding to support a strong tutorial system in all but Oxbridge, this has to be done by throwing students in at the deep end and getting them to engage with the original literature from year 1 at the same time as they are supported in learning the fundamentals. Individual academics and individual departments strive to do this, but in a culture where the comparative analysis of National Student Survey scores dictates that you must keep students happy and give them what they think they want, it takes a brave university, department and/or academic to do this.  (I was very pleased to find my new department assert very strongly that it wished to place greater emphasis on these aspects from this year).</p>
<p>More lobbying of government concerning educational policy and leadership in general from UUK, relevant position statements from the Russell Group as well as changes to QAA benchmark statements would help to ensure that we foster a view of science-as-ideas across industry and goverment. From such a culture, the conditions for the emergence of the right kind of capitalism are in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 07:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed.  The issue is how to achieve the competitive environment that&#039;s needed for good capitalism to thrive, and which provides fewer incentives for bad capitalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  The issue is how to achieve the competitive environment that&#8217;s needed for good capitalism to thrive, and which provides fewer incentives for bad capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamCB</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamCB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In short, and to focus on the positive side: Competition breeds competitiveness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short, and to focus on the positive side: Competition breeds competitiveness.</p>
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